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Oil Prices Move Higher, Retail Sector's Earnings Season 5/22/26
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**Stock Tickers and Price Levels:**
* S&P 500 (no specific price levels mentioned)
* Nasdaq 100 (no specific price levels mentioned)
* West Texas Intermediate oil ($98.82, up 1.5%)
* International benchmark oil ($105.83, up 3%)
* IBM (up 12.5-33% after Trump administration announcement)
* D-Wave (up 12.5-33% after Trump administration announcement)
* Rigetti (up 12.5-33% after Trump administration announcement)
* Take-Two Interactive (shares up 11.5% after revenue beat)
* Workday (shares up 11.5% after revenue beat)
* Zoom (shares up 7% after earnings and revenue beats)
**Key Trading Strategy:**
* Focus on earnings and fundamental analysis to identify strength in the economy
* Look for a broadening effect across other industries beyond mega-cap tech stocks
**Indicators Used:**
* None mentioned explicitly, but the discussion implies the use of fundamental analysis and earnings data.
**Entry/Exit Rules and Suggested Trades:**
* No specific entry or exit rules are mentioned, but the discussion suggests focusing on earnings and fundamental analysis to identify trading opportunities.
* Consider long positions in stocks with strong earnings and revenue growth, such as Take-Two Interactive and Workday.
**Timeframes Mentioned:**
* Weekly timeframe (e.g. S&P 500's weekly win streak)
* Monthly timeframe (e.g. the discussion of the economy's strength foundationally)
**Risk Management Tips:**
* None explicitly mentioned, but the discussion implies the importance of considering macroeconomic and geopolitical events when making trading decisions.
* Consider setting stop-losses and adjusting positions based on changing market conditions.
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Craving lunch? A crispy chicken sandwich is back at Tim's. With ingredients that make it more delicious than ever. I participate in restaurants in Canada. Buy the dip and save on CNBC Pro. 24-7 access to market-moving news and interviews across three global live streams for 59-99. At CNBC.com slash join CNBC Pro. Terms and conditions apply. The S&P tries to push its weekly win streak to eight. Futures right now are in the green. I'm Dominic Chiu. And this is your morning call. And good morning. I'm Dominic Chiu in from Morgan Brennan on this Friday, right before Memorial Day weekend. US stock futures right now are moving to the upside. The Dow is up by about 140 points. I'm glad it's the opening bell, the S&P at by about 20. And the tech heavier Nasdaq 100 up by about 109. We are tracking treasuries as well. Check out what's happening with rates because we are seeing a little bit of a bid to that treasury complex, which means lower yields. The benchmark 10-year note yield 4.56% the two-year note yield 4.08% and the 30-year long bond just to hair above 5.08% itself. Let's check on energy prices as well as the US and Iran signal some signs of progress despite being at odds on certain key issues, but right now oil prices are moving to the upside. US benchmark West Texas Intermediate $98.82 up to 1.5%. 3% gains for ice-brink crude through international benchmark $105.83 there. We're also tracking key names in the quantum computing space. IBM, D-Wave, Rigetti and others all up between 12.5 and 33% in yesterday's action. After the Trump administration announced they would award $2 billion in grants to nine companies operating in that space. If you're looking at how things are moving right now as well, we are seeing extensions of those gains. You can see they're generally speaking, those stocks are up again pretty much across the board extending yesterday's big gains in quantum. We're also taking a look at again some of these moves around at least quantum in this context. Let's see now how Europe and Asia are closing things out. With their training weeks, we'll turn to Karen, show who's live in London with the latest on the market action there. Karen, good morning. A dom, good morning to you. Well, Asian equities jumped this morning. Japanese stocks in particular, while oil prices remained volatile as investors. Can Teja Ho for a breakthrough in the US around peace talks. Meanwhile, Japanese core inflation slowed to a four-year low in April, complicating the outlook for the bank in Japan's rate-hiking path. Switching over here to Europe, stocks are lining up a day in the green in particular. Semiconductor technology names out in front. This is Bond, yields pull back after a rollercoaster week. We're now banking gains across for the training week, but stronger markets are the $1,100 up at third of a percent in the Zedra DAX, tracking around the highs that you've seen posted the Middle East conflict. Now, we're also watching Luxury stocks close through this morning. Cartier owner Rishmont beat on Q4 revenue expectations with stronger sales in the US and Asia offsetting weakness in the Middle East. This has been one of the best performing Luxury stocks in Europe, although still down for the training year. And Poo shares wonder watch. They're in decline right towards the bottom of the stock 600 after the company ended talks with Estee Lauder, over a merger that could have created a $40 billion group bringing together some of the beauty industry's biggest brands. And Dom, the word on the street, is that demands from Charlotte Tullbury, the founder, got in the way and made some of the complexity too difficult for the transaction to proceed back to you. All right, Karen, show and learn with the latest on the market action there. Have a nice weekend. Thank you very much for that. Let's get a quick look at some of the earnings movers taking shape this morning. Take two shares are higher after a revenue beat, but also saying that the latest installment of its blockbuster Grand Theft Auto Game franchise is still on track for a November release. The CEO of take two will have more on those results coming up in Squawk Box in the 8 AM hour, so keep an eye for that Strauss Zellnick interview. Shares of work day meanwhile also higher this morning after the HR software provider posted stronger than expected results and raised its full year margin guidance. Those shares are up about 11.5% and shares of Zoom are zooming higher after the company topped earnings and revenue estimates on strong enterprise sales. Zoom also opted stock buyback program by a billion dollars. Zoom shares of 7% pre-market. Now back to the broader side of things and the Dow coming off a fresh record on pace for its third positive week out of the last four and even better streak by the way for the S&P 500. Set to notch its eighth straight week of gains, that's the longest winning streak since 2023. Joining us now is Alan McKnight, Chief Investment Officer at Regions' Wealth Management. Alan, this has been an amazing market despite every single macro and geopolitical headwind that's been out there. What exactly has been going on that's been keeping this market afloat not just to the tune of maybe record highs but to the tune of Mag 7 stocks reasserting their dominance yet again. For us it's all about the earnings and when you see what's occurred over the last month and a half with earnings calls and you talk to CEOs, you talk to CFOs, there is still a strength foundationally to the economy and it's flowing through into the earnings. Now, big question Mark, will we see that in Q2 and Q3 as we start to see and receive some of the downside from what's happening in the Middle East but right now things are pretty well set up and it's now being or benefiting the markets. Overall, what's curious now is we seen this kind of safe haven approach towards these mega cap tech stocks. The case was made years ago that they are relatively immune to what's happening with the broader economy even with what's happening with geopolitical events like Iran. Is that going to be the case for all the other parts of the market or do we have to bank on those same ten or so stocks that are going to carry everything in the S&P 500? We think we're going to see a broadening effect. We saw a little bit at the beginning of the year and then we got put on pause during the conflict and now we're coming through this and I think the big question for us will be can we actually start to see a broadening across other industries that have a little bit more sensitivity if you will to the economy. So the consumer consumer discretionary you've heard from Home Depot and Lowe's and Walmart and the consumer's been bending quite a bit of late but we have to bank on the fact they're not going to break. Now, the rate story is interesting as well. These are the all of this because as interest rates go higher because the threat of inflation may be there, maybe be the longer term, it's ultimately going to have an effect on consumer confidence and that may be the driver of what we could see in terms of downside. Just how much should we worry about rates and how they're moving it's not just here in the U.S. it's all over the world at this point and what exactly can get us off of those particular highs? Well, first and foremost, it's a global story and you nailed it which is it's not just what the Fed is going to do it's other global central banks and right now we've moved from this we're going to see two cuts this year to now we might have to see you know we might have to hike a little bit just to get this inflation in check and the reality is it's not just the energy complex we're seeing prices across the board move higher and that's problematic for the consumer. I mean, and historically the consumer may say they're not very happy about it but then it's almost this Jerry McGuire showed me the money and they still spend and the U.S. consumer has never been put in the corner they're going to still spend and so what we want to see over the summer months with gas prices higher with some concerns about the tensions in the Middle East do they actually start to pull back a little bit. All right and then one place people are spending or want to spend on apparently is in hot IPOs. We are seeing a lot of activity on that front there. Cerebrus was just the latest example but now we have SpaceX's filings coming out and Thropic and open AI are anticipated at some point down the line as well. What exactly does this hot IPO market tell you about where things could go from here and are we going to keep spending given the fact that we have this demand for these IPOs. It's been a big debate for our investment team because what we tried to look back over history and thinking this idea of history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes and when you look back to the 99 time period and I'm old enough to say that I was a part of that when you see just this excitement and this rush to own these names without any profits and yes those companies eventually came to profits but our question about SpaceX open AI and Thropic will they be able to actually deliver the returns on the investments that are being made. We do think it's going to be a completely different dynamic because of how large they are and that impact on the index because they're going to get conceivably introduced into the markets and so much money is going to flow into those names pulling from some of the other hot names in the last really a couple of weeks and months. All right really quickly before we let you go for the long weekend. Is this 1999? We don't think it is. We think that things are much better than they were in 99. It's not across the board. There are a few names that are really getting a little bit frothy but it's not everywhere. All right, Alamak night, CIO at Regionswell. Thank you very much. We appreciate it. Have a nice Memorial Day weekend. You as well, Tom. Thanks. All right. A lot more to come here on morning call including signaling some of the signs of caution out there. The headwinds facing retail giants amid mounting questions again about the consumer to Alance Point plus that consumer facing gas prices at four year highs heading into Memorial Day weekend what it could all mean for the summer travel season and then later on pulling the plug with just seconds to go when SpaceX may try to carry out its critical rocket launch as it prepares to go public a very busy hour still ahead when morning call returns after this commercial break. Thursday July 16th CNBC Sport and boardroom joined Finatics Fest for Game Plan. Groundbreaking ideas shaping the future of sports and entertainment. Request your invite at CNBCEvents.com slash Game Plan. Welcome back to morning call. Market flash now and shares of raw stores that stock is jumping to the tune of five and a half percent on the back of earnings after yesterday's close. First quarter profits and revenue topping estimates the retailer also raised its full-year annual comparable store sales and profit forecast as well. Discount retailer catching a big bid we'll see if that's a good thing for the overall economy and the consumer. Sticking with that retail trade the sector's busy week of earnings wraps up this morning will get results from BJs before the bell and then that stock is down about two percent since its last report. Those results follow earnings from the likes of Home Depot, Lowe's, Wal-Mart, Target and others helping kick off the wave of quarterly reports from that retail sector. That parade continues next week with the likes of Costco, Best Buy, Gap Stores and Dollar Tree all reporting their results. For more let's bring in Jerome Martis the Director of Consumer Research over at LSEG Group. Jerome this is an interesting dynamic that's developing because the consumer is obviously facing stress right now with higher fuel costs and higher inflation across the board but they remain surprisingly resilient in the face of all of it. Can we keep expecting that from the consumer? So Dom thank you so much for having me this morning. That's very interesting because the hot topic this earnings season has went out of the higher fuel cost. In fact 50% of retailers that have reported earnings have mentioned that in their earnings call. And as a result what we're seeing is that analysts pulled by LSEG have been lowering their earnings guidance for the upcoming quarters. Take for example the second quarter. At the beginning of this year LSEG was looking at a 8% earnings growth rate for retailers. However that has now been cut in half to 4% because of these higher gasoline prices. And if retailers actually come in at 4% earnings growth rate this would mark a significant slowdown from Q1 where we're expected to see an estimated growth rate of 26%. Now this is also an interesting dynamic developing because we are seeing kind of like this I guess bifurcation in certain parts of the market you know across the income spectrum and the kind of retailer price point spectrum. But it's now starting to hit some of the higher end companies as well. We've seen that commentary from some of the European luxury houses but I mentioned raw stores before surging on its earnings report. How exactly are things shaping up right now? It seems as though that lower end consumer might be helped out by some of the discounting that's happening in elsewhere in the market. So the divide in consumer income cohorts is definitely very evident. We saw that the high end consumer is firing at all cylinders. We saw that they are shopping for home goods at William Sunoma and at Royal Florent and what's very interesting about the high end consumer is that they're willing and able to pay full price in a time when the middle class consumer is actually being value conscience and is being driven by promotions in order to shop to come into the stores. We're seeing that they still want high end designer clothing but they wanted at a discount that's why they're gravitating towards Ross and TJ Maxx and they're thinking twice about making those high expensive DIY projects at home people and lows and Walmart was very clear yesterday that the low end consumer is the one being squeezed the most because of these higher gas fuel prices and the macro economic conditions. So what companies stand to relatively benefit more in this kind of environment from a stock performance perspective where are the fundamentals more justified in certain types of companies? So value right now the value proposition is key. In fact in a collaboration with centric market intelligent outsell discover that what brought the consumers into the stores in the month of March and April was the fact that amount of merchandise on sale actually reached a six-year high and the markdowns offered on these products actually hit an all-time low since we started collecting this data in 2019. So what this is telling us is that retailers are being very strategic, very disciplined in protecting their margins while giving the consumer their perception that they're getting a value for their money. All right an interesting kind of shifting of perceptions there as well. Jerome Martis thank you very much. Have a nice holiday weekend. Thank you too. All right well straight ahead on the show andthropics looking to bolster its ties with one tech giant as it looks to further cement it's AI dominance but first more on the retail sector and a check on shares of Decker's outdoor shares of the parent company of shoe brands like Ugg and Hoka brands under pressure after initially rising after reporting record revenue for its worth quarter and full year citing robust sales guidance for the current quarters coming in relatively mixed those shares are down about 1% right now in the pre-market trade morning call is back after this. Welcome back to morning call checking some of the morning's latest headlines House Republican leaders abruptly canceling a vote on a resolution directing President Trump to withdraw U.S. forces from Iran or get approval from Congress to continue those operations leaders doing so after it became clear they did not have the votes to defeat the war powers resolution they'll likely bring the measure back up when the house returns from its week-long memorial day recess. CNBC's confirming reports that Microsoft is in talks to supply its custom AI chips to anthropic sources adding the two companies have not signed off on a deal involving Microsoft's myad chips back in November Microsoft said it would invest $5 billion in anthropic while anthropic committed to spending $30 billion on Azure. SpaceX will attempt to carry out a critical test of its massive Starship rocket later on today after scrapping the launch with just seconds to go yesterday. CEO Elon Musk revealing the hydraulic pin holding the tower arm in place did not retract properly. The scrub launch coming a day after SpaceX filed a prospectus for its highly anticipated initial public offering. And Apple is asking the Supreme Court to review a lower courts ruling that forced major changes to its app store payments rules as part of its ongoing legal fight with epic games on that matter. In its petition, Apple argues that the lower courts improperly relied on the spirit of the injunction rather than the actual wording of the order when finding the company in contempt. And finally, Texas is suing WhatsApp and its parent company Meta platforms. The state claims they misled consumers about the strength and scope of WhatsApp's encryption measures. Met is denying the claim in a comment to Reuters. Well, turning back to the markets with the Dow hovering at a fresh record high up over one and a half percent for the week. The S&P and NASDAQ also in the green as well for the week. The S&P, by the way, is set to notch its eighth positive week in a row. For a closer look at what's driving the action. Let's bring in Frank Capillary, founder and president of Cap Thesis. He's also a CNBC contributor. Frank, thank you very much for being here with us right now. And I know you've got the illustrator in play. We would expect that for a chartist like yourself. So let's talk a little bit about what you're seeing in the market overall and what's caught your attention in the charts. Dom, thanks for having me. Well, as we know, it's a tech-led market. So for this to continue, which I'm bullish on, we need to see rotation. And one area we can look towards right here is the equal weight RSP, S&P 500 ETF. So it looks different than the S&P 500 because it's already extended. So this, to me, is a classic inverse hand shoulders pattern, right? And so if you get a brick out, of course, we can go much higher. So what I'm curious about is sometimes you hear the root rotation. Think about going into the areas that are more downside, right? They already had fallen. But these are the ones I look for that have foundations built already. They're ready to accept the capital that comes in there. Alright, so equal weight, not as much focus on tech and comm services in this particular ETF because it tracks them across a more equally weighted basket about the 500 stocks. What exactly then, if it's not tech, that's driving some of the outperformance there, what part of the market are you seeing? Well, technology is still hovering near the top. It's about 14 percent, but financials 15 percent, industrial is right around there as well. And those are important, of course, to the economy. And they have the most stocks within the index itself. Alright, so let's clear that and see what we can talk about with regard to the financial sector overall. Because we are seeing some movements there that may indicate that there is a broadening out that could play out or not, depending what the charts say. What do you see? Correct, so here we go again. Here is the financial XLFN. It looks pretty similar to the RSP, but has a quite gone to that breakout zone yet. But I think it can, because you can see over the last few weeks here, it's been selling off, but holding near that now flat 50-day moving average. Sometimes it's not always acting like support, but now it is. So we can see that if we could finally get up there, finally get a breakout and have a clear path to highs that we saw from a few months ago. So with the XLF, of course, very important. And noticing that, looking for chart ideas for our clients, XLF has been hanging in there even with the rates screaming higher. So I think it's very important to note as well. Alright, so the financials are part of that kind of broadening out trade. But let's get back to some of the epicenter of the moves that we've seen over the course of the last few weeks since the war lows back at the end of March. And you got to think tech and comm services are a big factor of that. So what are you seeing on that front? Right. So XLC, we're about to look at next, of course, looks very similar, right? You can see this is an inverse standard shoulders pattern too. Now remember, rotation doesn't have to be out of a growth and can be within growth. And so if you go all the way back here, though, XLC has been net flat for eight months. Right. So we're just ready. And again, at the very end of this, we have this bullish pattern formation. So this, of course, alphabetically doing better, but there's some other areas that have not like meta and Netflix have been underperforming. I think those could be ready. And if they do break out, then of course, we can see your break out into all time highs for the XLC as well. Alright. And then let's kind of put a point on it. When you take a look at your entire universe, do you have like a best few ideas or a best idea that kind of comes to mind? Sure, we're about to look at it. And one of them being Goldman Sachs, yes. And so we start talking about Goldman to our clients at the beginning of the month right around here, because we noticed that there was also, there's a theme here and other inverse and shoulders pattern, right? Finally, breaking out over the last few days, and this would have a target up to about 1100. So obviously, very recognizable name, but it's not just Goldman that looks like this. Again, looking at financial stocks for bullish patterns, you can track, and of course, you know, we're going to see the upside targets within, take it higher from there. And again, if we're going to see some capital flow out, the highest flying names, this would be a good spot. Put your money into it. All right, a focus there on the equal weight S&P, communication services, financials, and the call on Goldman Sachs. Frank, thank you very much. And by the way, you're going to stick around. So don't go too far. You're going to be with us for the morning call crew coming up. Thank you very much for that. Thanks a lot. All right, still in deck for the show, oil climbing higher. Once again, with the US Benchmark number, I'm $100. Pippa Stevens is here to lay out whether elevated energy prices may be sticking around longer term. And as we head out to break a look at the real estate sector, up 3% so far, this week, just off a high hit two weeks ago and outperforming the broader market as well, a look at some of the stocks leading that charge. You've got American Tower of 10% plus. So far, this week, Alexandria real estate and crown castle both up about 6%. Morning call continues after this. I'm Dominic Chewin from Morgan Brennan. Welcome back to morning call. Let's kick things off with US equity futures in this half hour. The Dow is sitting at a record high, by the way, and set to open about another 135 points to the upside. The S&P is implied higher by 12 points in the tech heavier NASDAQ 100 up by a modest 50 points. On the treasury side of things, we are seeing a bid for government bonds, which is leading to lower interest rates or yields, the Benchmark 10-year note yield here above 4.55%. The two-year note yield 4.08% and the 30-year long bond 5.08%. We're tracking key names in the quantum computing space with shares of IBM, DeWave, Brigetti, and others surging between 12.5% to 33% yesterday after the Trump administration announced it would award $2 billion worth of grants to nine companies operating in the industry. Taking a look at how those stocks are moving ahead of the opening bell today, they are generally extending those gains from yesterday. You can see they're pretty much up across the board for those quantum names. Checking out how global markets are closing out the week in Asia, Japan's Nikkei leading gains as core inflation there hit a four-year low and the early trade in Europe, you can see they're generally positive is around just about fractional gains for those global markets. Watching energy prices as the US and Iran report signs of progress on efforts to reach a peace deal despite key issues remaining, including Iran's ability to keep enriched uranium in the country. Oil prices right now are up roughly two and a half to three percent. US Benchmark prices, $98.65, US Benchmark prices translate into international markets prices up three percent, $105.61 for Brent. But as traffic through the straight-of-four moves remains muted, oil inventories are declining at a more rapid rate. Our Pipa Stevens is actually joining us now as a look at what that could mean for oil prices going forward, short medium and maybe even longer term. Yeah, Dom, so we're increasingly hearing this narrative that it's really those inventory draws that's acting as a buffer for the market. And if it weren't for that, those oil barrels coming out of storage, prices would actually be a much at a much higher level. But the issue of course is that this is a finite buffer. So take a look at this chart from JP Morgan, which really puts some numbers behind it. Starting the year, we had about a really healthy inventories of about 8.4 billion barrels. You see there on a global scale. Now, it might sound like a lot, but the firms said that only about 800 million of those are actually available to draw. So through May, we've decreased those stockpiles by about 400 million, meaning we only have about 400 million barrels and inventory left. Now, the firm said that on that trajectory, we should reach the operational stress levels for the system by June. Now, if we look here in the US, inventories are still at a very healthy level, but they are drawing rapidly. You see that big drawdown. Last week, new data showed that they were down by about 17.78 million barrels, including a record 9.9 million barrel draw from the SPR. Now, that might sound a little bit counterintuitive given that these barrels are coming out of storage and going abroad. But rabbit and energy's Bob McNally told me that that's actually exactly what the SPR is designed for, because it's not as if the US doesn't have access to oil right now. We are, of course, the world's largest producer. And so what the SPR is doing is it's mitigating that price shock that would be happening globally and then impacts US consumers more. And so, US production hasn't increased meaningfully, meaning that drawdown in inventories. Those barrels are coming out of storage and hitting global markets, Tom. All right. So, I guess, let's put a point on this. Given the trajectory that we are seeing for some of these drawdowns, what exactly are we seeing in the oil markets? The crude curve to suggest whether prices are going to be affected on that kind of more medium to long-term basis. Yeah. So, you see right here that WTI is trading below 198, 60, Brent at 105, 57. Now, we have come down a little bit from where we were at the highs, post-conflict, but you've got to look at where we started the year. So, before the end, before the war began, WTI was about $63 or so. So, we're still more than $30 above where we traded prior to the war. And then you talk about the curve. It has come up. The curve is nowhere near where the front month is right now, but it has meaningfully lifted. It's now about 75 looking out towards the end of the year. And one thing to note about that SPR drawdown is that the swap mechanism means that it has to be refilled at 120%. And so, what that means is that it lifts the back end for demand. And so, that theory will lift the curve. And so, everyone focuses on the front month we always do, but it is important, as you know, to look how traders are viewing the curve looking forward and the price signals they're seeing there. Yeah, you take the barrels now, but you've got to pay them back down the line with a big on top of that. So, all right, Pipa Stevens, thank you very much for that check on the oil prices right now. Let's now dig a little further into what's happening with the overall markets and energy side of things. With Denton Sincuagrana, he's a chief oil analyst over at Dow Jones Energy. You'll forgive me because I always want to say OPIS. But, you know, Denton, great to have you here with us for this. You just heard Pipa's report. It's interesting because if you take a look at the crude curve overall, she mentioned it and she hit it on the nail on the head. We are still in backwardation. Front month contracts are still much more expensive than they are, say, six, nine, 12 months down the line. But the entire curve is elevated in price. So, even if it's lower out there, it's higher than that month was just about three or five months ago. Is that something we can expect structurally higher energy prices, given what's happening with Iran? Yeah, no, and like said, to the head right on the head, and go also good morning. But yeah, absolutely, the back end of the curve is definitely coming up because you need those higher prices because obviously the SPR needs to be refilled. And also other countries and the US has run down commercial inventories as well or in the process of running down commercial inventories. So, those need to be refilled as well. So, yeah, we expect prices stay, you know, I know the phrase being thrown out there, I'll look quite a bit these days, but higher for longer. And do expect that to happen through the end of this year. And probably, you know, into it well into 2027 as well. What exactly could then reset those markets to back to where they were? I don't want to be nostalgic, but I will be a little bit here. What does it take to get markets to go back to where they were pre-war? Can we ever get back there? Or, and if so, how long does it take? Absolutely, can certainly get back there. You never say never with these oil markets, but obviously the street would have to reopen. That's kind of first and foremost of normal flow of traffic and return of production levels in the Middle East. That's going to take some time. You know, even if we ended, say, tomorrow, still going to take, you know, the better part of, you know, three, four, five months to kind of return to normal. You know, remember, some of the ships that had been moved basically to the Western hemisphere to kind of service this area, those ships move at like 13, 14 miles an hour. So, it's really like riding a bicycle on water. They move really slow to get them positioned back into the Persian Gulf, would take just a couple weeks alone. We've also focused a lot in that last report from PEPA about what's happening with oil prices, oil stockpiles, drawdowns, the strategic petroleum reserve. Let's talk a little bit about the derivatives of that. And I'm thinking specifically gasoline prices because it's a thing that we see the most. I filled up this morning on my way into work. It's a little bit better than it has been, but it's still way up there. What exactly can consumers expect from fuel costs and what dynamics are shaping that kind of refinery to pump dynamic? Yeah, so absolutely, gasoline prices are at the retail level are higher, about 455 this morning. We did see the market come off the last couple days, so there might be a little bit of relief for the weekend. I wouldn't, you know, pick it up much more than a couple pennies, but relief nonetheless. But, you know, we talk about crude oil inventories. Gasoline inventories are starting to get a little bit concerning considering the fact that after we've been drawing down for 14 straight weeks, now some of that in February and March was terminals kicking out winter-grade gasoline to make room for summer-grade gasoline. But we're running some 10 to 12 million barrels below the seasonal norm for this time of year. And the numbers that came out from the energy information administration earlier this week pointed to inventories that are the kind of the lowest levels since 2014 for this time of year. All right, Denton, simply run out. We're going to leave the conversation there. Thank you very much. Have a great memorial day. We can hope that you get some golf in. We'll see you soon. Yes. Do my best. Thanks, Tom. All right. A lot more to come here. A morning call, including more on the impact of those high energy prices at the summer travel season kicks off to Denton's point. And the shifts consumers may be making to find some relief at the pump. As we head out to break, though, a check on iMac shares jumping after report that it's exploring a potential sale. Sources telling CNBC that the company has held preliminary talks. No official pitches have been made, but iMac shares are up fractionally in the pre-market trade morning call is back after this. Welcome back to morning call. Gasoline prices continue to grind higher. Triple A says the average price for a gallon of regular unleaded is $4.55 right now. Triple A is also saying that that's the highest level in four years. And predictions markets are not that optimistic that we're anywhere near the top. On CalChi right now, there is a 76% probability that will hit $4.80 a gallon later on this year. 59% odds in probabilities at five bucks a gallon. And a solid coin toss near 48% above five dollars and 20 cents a gallon. So how much is this weighing on the travel plans for this Memorial Day weekend? Kintessa Brewer joins us now with that story. Again, Kintessa, I filled up this morning so I know it like everybody else does out there. The prices are high. Is it going to affect my travel and others? You know, because it hits you in the wallet when you're paying $50 instead of $30 to fill up. This is Kingston, New York. Right off the New York state through way, gateway to the cat skills. And it can be a stopover for those who need gasoline or for those who need a charge. If you're heading to the Adirondacks or Vermont or the Finger Lakes, maybe these destinations get a boost because this is a drive market country, the kind of place that families still come when they want to get away. But you know, maybe not the airfoil or the big hotel bill, the whole production of a longer trip. Triple A expects more than 45 million Americans to travel this Memorial Day. That would be a holiday record, even with gas prices at nearly a buck 50, more than $1.48 more than last year. You kind of got a sigh of relief there for a second, didn't you? Clearly people want a break, but what are they willing to pay? Sojourn, the travel intelligence company says Memorial Day hotel bookings are showing some softness. Domestic bookings are down nearly 8% year over year international bookings down more than 10%. But the data shows that travelers are not necessarily swapping the big trip for a shorter one. 57% of bookings now are still within 500 miles of home and that long haul share has not meaningfully shifted. So instead of downsizing, it looks like some travelers are just opting to sit out altogether. Still, you've got these big events that are big draws. For instance, BTS, the Korean superstar boy band is playing in Las Vegas. MGM told me they're fully booked this weekend. And on MGM's earnings call, the CFO said the company's not seeing a summer slowdown even with price pressure from airfare gas and other costs. He says it's hard to predict, though, what's to come this summer because now the booking windows are so short. Dom, so Contessa, how does all of this factor into this kind of conversation around this bifurcation in the economy? Were some of the people who are more well off on the income spectrum are doing better in a higher fuel environment than those that are lower or in the middle class in America right now? You know what's so fascinating is that if you look at trip advisors top destinations for Memorial Day weekend, you have Rome, Italy on one hand and you have Reno, Nevada on the other hand. Expedia put out their top destinations. Prescott, Arizona makes the top five. It's just not a place that you would normally think of as your let's get away Memorial Day weekend kind of thing. So it really does show there are people who are willing to spend on international destinations and those who say no, I'm going to go closer to home. Bank of America put out a summer travel note and it said that lower income households are much more likely to have no travel plans, almost 40 percent. And they're showing that their card spending is down significantly year over year in this for travel related purchases. By contrast, if you look at middle and higher income households, they are seeing stronger spending. Interesting. Well, for our family, we're staying close to home and I'm happy about the fuel bill on that front. Contessa Brewer, it may be the work. Yeah, it may be. Contessa, live in Kingston, New York, off of Thruway. Thank you very much. Have a nice weekend. Still straight ahead in the show. The morning call crews a jug convening right now, digging to the drivers for the trading day ahead, including the buying opportunity, one crew member sees in one key part of the market. We're back with that after this. Welcome back to morning call. Here's what to watch today. We'll get the latest looks at the consumer sentiment and leading economic indicators. Kevin Worsh will be sworn in as the new chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank. We'll also hear from the feds Christopher Waller and earnings reports coming from BJs and booze Alan Hamilton. Well, it's time for your call sheet. We'll relook at the topic, striving the trading day ahead. The crew members today are Frank Capillary of Cap Thesis back with us. Also with us now is Megan Xu of Wilmington Trust. Both are CNBC contributors. We've also got Drew Pettit from City as well. Thank you all for being here with us. Let's get to our first topic, which is this market's arguably quiet rally towards these record high levels. And Megan, I will start with you here. Has it been surprising at all that the markets can do this reach record high levels given everything that's going on? I think so. I mean, Geopolitics remains very headline driven and oil is the primary risk to the consumer up until now tax refunds for the consumer, which have been about 17% higher than last year have been providing a lot of cushion against higher oil prices. So if we stay here through the summer, I would expect the pressure on the consumer, particularly the lower end consumer, but you've been discussing this morning to build. But I think the market's keying off of earnings there. We've obviously seen a very strong picture again, a little caution because all of the upside, surprise to earnings has come from tech and energy. The rest of the market doing fine, but not delivering the same degree of robust earnings growth. All right. So Megan's got the kind of macro picture. The consumer is a big focus and Drew, I'll go to you for this next one. Do the fundamentals support these kinds of valuations in the market? And are there certain places in the market that you would be overweight or underweight given what you're seeing? I would say half of the market, yes. So when you look at the S&P, Megan kind of alluded to it, right? Half the market is really AI enabled and it's not just technology. There's even the infrastructure built in the industrial side there. Look, so that makes sense. Earnings momentum to us in general looks good. The market has a lot of price momentum, but we'd be fading price momentum where you don't have earnings followed through. So we still like tech, we think you tactically fade energy and you look for any companies that can continue to expand margins and improve operating efficiency. So lots of those opportunities still in the market to us. All right. And Frank, we had talked earlier about your kind of possible breakouts brewing for financials and communication services. Are there parts of the market that you would stay away from right now? Well, I think we have to focus on growth in those areas. So the defensive ones right now, I don't think you're going to play out as well. But you want to see, of course, is rotation and eventually those will work. But the most driving the market are going to be the ones that are, of course, have them more stocks than them and, of course, have the highest market cap as well. They tend to be momentum at two. And do you feel as though some of those momentum names could be due for a fall and if so, just how deep could it be? It hasn't really been deep at all for the past few years. Yes. And that's what we're talking about with the rotation call. And so if you look at specifically semiconductors, right, just hitting a 20 day moving average for the first time in a number of weeks, we could go back to what happened in 2025. When that occurred, it led to some consolidation first and a continuation of the uptrend. So if the pullback does come, I think we have the ability to then track it and see if another bullish pattern can form from that point. If not, of course, there's a lot of light support underneath there to take advantage of. All right. So the market narrative these days is very much about those corporate fundamentals, but it's also about this massive rush that we are expecting in very high profile. They used to be unicorn, but now they're unicorns on steroids, right? These are massive companies coming to market. These giant IPOs drew, I'll go to you for this one first, the anticipation of what's coming down the pike. What's it going to do to the markets and to invest or demand and to sentiment? It's going to remain high. Look, I think people are really bullish and excited for these things. We get it. Really, the market's been starved for interesting growth names. We've talked about this for years. Small cap has had a serious problem because these IPOs don't come into small cap, become mid cap, and then eventually become large. They skipped that whole value chain. So I think a lot of investors and public equities really haven't had the interesting growth stories. They want thematic exposure to a lot of these giant IPOs, and look, they haven't been building the small cap and kind of growth satellite positions as aggressively. So I think it'll fill a hole in people's portfolios. I get it, supplies really large, but we think fundamentals, strong momentum, support these IPOs. Megan, are you excited about all of these companies coming to market as a buyer or investor, or are you a little bit more cautious or skeptical given some of the valuations that you're seeing? I do think the valuations give caution at least in the short term and the enthusiasm and the momentum for some of these names. The price action that we saw from St. Louis last week, I think is evident that there is a lot of momentum and the companies coming to market will also probably make it into the ETF indices quicker. So that means that active managers need to build up positions relatively quickly just to keep some resemblance to the index. So that helps capital flowing into these companies. But I think you could be more exposed to some short-term volatility in these names just because of the rapid flows into these stocks and the short-term price movement. But longer term, I think they make some very interesting stories and these companies are obviously changing the world. So if you have a long investment horizon, they are potentially interesting. All right, so let's talk about our third topic because we officially have a new Fed Chair now. It's been sworn in. Kevin Warsh, he's going to be the guy and that is going to have an impact perhaps on rates. Frank, I will start with you here. Is the 10 year at 4.5 to 4.6% on the charts something that is attractive or can we see even higher upside in yields? I think long-term just began. Have you seen some inflationary pressures already? Of course, not just crude oil, other commodities as well. But if you look at the 10 year, I would caution that this could be a very long-term event to actually get there because it's really net flat since the beginning or the middle of 2022. They hit 5% a little bit later or in the beginning of 2023, but if you look at that, there's been many months up and down where people got overly excited about both sides of it. So I think right now, in terms of what the market looks like or feels about, worse coming in, we've reduced the hearing about Powell and understanding what he's staying for the last eight years. So I think between now and then, probably have to withstand some volatility before we see the next path of rates going higher. All right, Drew, we got a few moments left here. How much are those rates going to factor into valuations in the back half of the year? Long-term, if you stay above 4.5 and you start threatening 5%, it's hard to put a multiple of 25 acts on the S&P. So medium-term earnings, fine for multiples, longer-term, the macro, especially rates inflation, a little bit more difficult to send up. All right. Thank you guys very much. Megan Schew drew, Pettit and Frank Capillary for the morning call crew today. We appreciate it. Have a great Memorial Day weekend. Hope you enjoy the holiday. Well, let's check on futures right now. We are heading and closing out the week and possibly eight straight weeks worth of gains. The Dow Jones implied at higher by 180 points. The S&P up by 19 points in the NASDAQ up by 80 points. We hope you have a great Memorial Day weekend, Swachbox starts right now.